Fish Family info from Buddy

Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 
From: Harvey Buddy Fish hfish@berkshire.net

Info found in conjuction with Roger Fish at the Berkshire Anthenaeum library in Pittsfield, Mass. Roger had followed his line back to an Abraham Fish or Fisk, thinking the family may have changed the name from Fisk to Fish. No wonder, near the same area in NY there was a John Fish, son of Ephraim and a John Fisk, son of Ephraim. Buddy and Roger followed both for a while, the Fiske family coming to NY from Cheshire, Mass., a town not far from me. These Fisk folk returned to this area after a spell and we found the gravestones for most of them. Buddy and Roger did manage to find Roger's ancestors and found quite a story of frontiersmen to go with it.

Thomas Fish #72 was born in 1619 in England. He died in Rhode Island. His children included: Robert, said to be born about 1649 (listed that way in WFT Vol 7, tree#143) Note: according to the book "The Early Records of Portsmouth", ed'd ...by the Librarian of the Rhode Island Hisotrical Society, Providence, R.I., 1901-Thomas Fish, page 43, 1649, then again on page 39 for 1649, then on page22, shownin a land arrangement/deal in Portsmouth in 1643, the earliest mentionof him inthis particualr book. Robert Fish married Mary Hall, the daughter of Zuriel Hall, in Portsmouth, Rhode Island September 16, 1656 (date she was born?). (Dec 10, 1688 is the marriage date given by the WFT Vol 7 tree 143) Their children, all born in Portsmouth, included:

 Robert, born March 1, 1692 
 Mary, March 1, 1693 
 William, June 7, 1695 
 Zuriel, named after his mother's father, born July 10, 1697 
 Isaac, born  December 25, 1699 
 Alice, born July 3, 1702 
 Jonathan, born October 27, 1704 
 Daniel, born May 17, 1707 David, born March 10, 1710

Note: according to the book "The Early Records of Portsmouth", ed'd ...by The Librarian of the Rhode Island Historical Society, Providence,R.I., 1901 - Zurial Hall - on page 240 "at a meeting ... 13th day of the 12th month February 1689/90.... Zurial Hall ..chosen to serve in the next Jury of Tryals at newport..." and on page 244 - "... and Zuriel Hall are chosen and impowered ... to make the said rate and to proportion it ... on the Estate in the Township" (at a meeting the 22d of the 6 month 1690 (in Portsmouth) and on page 297 - "may the ninth day 1697 ...Zuriel X Hall, his marke (at a coroners inquest into the death of an Indian Squaw found dead upon the shore).

Then, with one or two generations missing -
(Thomas Fish, son of William and Mary, born March 9, 1717) *probably the father of Zuriel below, see what the 'tree' says. (Thomas Fish, son of Preserved and Ruth, born December 1, 1703) (Thomas Fish, son of Daniel and Abigail, born February 9,m 1683)

(#591 Thomas⁶, William, Robert, Thomas, ALice, John)
#600 Zurial⁷ Fish was born about 1730-50, the son of Thomas Fish. He married Alse Hart July 2, 1770 in Tiverton, Rhode Island, she the daughter of Smiton Hart.
Their children, all born in Tiverton, included:

• #600a Easter, born December 23, 1770
• #600b Martha, born March 10, 1772
• #600c Abraham, born November 27, 1773
• #600d Zurial, born January 22, 1778
• #600e Alse (also spelled Elce), born October 2, 1780
• #600f Jane, born in 1782
• #600g Thomas, born in 1789
• #600h David, born in 1792

#600d Zurial Fish, born January 22, 1778, went to Manchester, New York (then part of Farmington) from Tinmouth, Rhode Island, arriving there about May 1, 1800 by ox drawn wagon, having traveled through the winter. He traveled with Phillip Lamunyon, later spelled Lamunion. Zurial had come to own 200 acres in Manchester, and Phillip owned 28 acres. Zurial died in Ontario County, about 1815, his burial site is unknown. He died in the Farmington/Manchester area.
His children include:

• Abram, died in the same area as his father, burial site unknown.
• Hester
• Martha
• Alice
• Jane
• Zurial (Jr.) said to have died in 1813 leaving 3 children. He would have been awfully young. This is probably the Zuriel Fish which joined the NY militia during the War of 1812.
• David

Abram Fish died in Ontario County, New York. His children include: Phillip, died in New York, buried in Sunnyside Cemetery, Manchester

Phillip Fish born about 1812-15 in NY, died in New York. He married Louisa ___,born about 1817-18 in New York. In 1860 they lived in the Norton Mills section of Farmington. Part of Farmington was struck off to form Manchester at some point.
Their children included:

• Myron, born about 1842 in NY, died on or about March 14, 1890.
• Ann A., born about 1843 in NY, apparently died before Myron.
• Nelson D., born about 1845 in Ny (probably in July or August,) died before Myron.
• Edwin W., born about 1846 in NY, lived in Manchester in 1890-93.
• Rosetta, born about 1849 in NY (see 1860 census)
• Carrie L., died unmarried on or about July 12, 1890. (listed as Caroline in 1860 census, born about 1858)
• Augusta, born about 1843 (see 1860 census) (could this be the Anna referred to in the court documents?)
• Orrin, born about 1852 in NY (see 1860 census)
• Ella, born about 1854 in NY (see 1860 census)

Nelson D.Fish born about 1845 in NY, died NY and is buried in Brookside Cemetery, Shortsville, NY. He married Marriette E. ___, she born about 1846 in New York.Both her parents were born in NY also. Nelson was listed as a farmer in Farmington, NY in 1880. He had died by the time of his brother Myron's death in 1890. Marriette died shortly after Myron.
Their children included:

• Julian E., born July 1872 in NY, died possibly in New York, is buried in Brookside Cemetery in Shortsville, was assigned a General Guardian by the courts by 1893 named David Burham of Canadaigue, NY. (something here doesn't make sense, if he was born in 1872 he would hardly be considered an infant in 1890)(age and birth date given in 1900 census as 28, born July 1872)
• Alice E., born about 1874 in NY, died unmarried on or about April 20,1890. (mentioned in court documents)

Julian Fish born July 1872, died possibly in NY, is buried in Shortsville, New York. Julian married Edith A. ___, apparently after May 1892, sheborn in December of 1871 in NY. Edith's father and mother were born inNew York.In 1900 they lived in Manchester, NY, moving to nearby Farmington by1920. They had at least 8 children. Note: Julian's age is given as 47 in the 1920 census, Edith's age is given as 48) 11/10/98

Note: Another interesting note about Zurial Fish. Buddy figures he must have had a speech impedment or similar handicap. Often times, whenever a reference mentions him, and I find reason to believe it is actually Zurial, his name is mispelled all over the place. Zurtal as in your listing of the 1820 NY census, and also as Zural and even Urial and others.